Magical Enforcement of the Physical

[Lateralus]

Chronomancy really isn't a big deal. I don't use it, and the reason why I don't use it doesn't deal with it being "cheap." There are so many ways you can directly, and even indirectly (a causality phenomena, in example) affect the concept of time - and because of this, there lies many ways to exploit it for your offense, or simply counter it when you confront it. I don't mind if someone I fight uses Chronomancy, because I can easily, no doubt, stand my ground. I don't use it because I try to avoid the conflict in general. And it's not really as good as everyone thinks.

[tal1n]

And that's what frustrates me. People treat time travel like it's so simple. They swat a single mosquito, and they could well change the fabric of time. What if that mosquito was carrying a disease that was supposed to spread and kill off an entire species? Suddenly, you return back to your time, and there's a breed of dinosaur that's still around, somehow being the dominant species in the world!

[ozdevil]

havent any of you watched Doctor Who, iam sure he killed plenty of mosquitoes XD

[tal1n]

I refuse to even speak of that QUACK. Doctor Who annoys me with it's simplistic view of timetravel.

[Draken]

I believe that one can use his or hers magical abilities to create a magical impact upon their armor or sword or axe or bow. It just depends on how advanced they are in there knowledge of the magical arts.

[tal1n]

This is what I've tried to explain in this thread, that it's not as simple that any novice spellcaster can do it.

[Illnamiss]

There are several things, displayed in this thread, that only serve to add to the pandemonium that is RP battle.

Many people constantly assume that there is only one way to do things, and that their opponent must adhere to said way. (I.E. - Not having a general, sword-shaped area of flame, but having to heat the core of the sword itself to the point of the air around it igniting.)

Speaking of time travel as if it were a possible, structured concept only serves to add to chaos.

If someone doesn't specify the means, I suggest one should justify the ends by making the easiest possible assumption.

[Lateralus]

Speaking of time travel as if it were a possible, structured concept only serves to add to chaos.

Time travel is theoretically possible, Illnamiss. Though, there are other theories (not as high in the consensus of the scientific population, mind you) that say time travel isn't possible. Nonetheless, just because there are contradicting theories does not mean they can't be used - really, both concepts can be exploited at the same time, and this is why I say it's not so retardedly powerful like so many believe. Time travel in itself is extremely ambiguous as well; there are so many things that can be done to rape time in the butt. Really, the ONLY chaos that is added is the ignorance in those that cannot face the fact that there is more knowledge outside of themselves than they realize.

There are so many things someone can do - to say someone cannot do something that isn't good enough for something else is pretty stupid. And this isn't completely towards you; it's a general statement. Catch it?

[Illnamiss]

Ultimately, everything is theoretically possible. My reference was to its possibility as something happening now. Not once did I say, or imply that certain theories cannot be used. In fact, what I said stood against those saying certain theories cannot be used, my point being:

Let people play as they wish; if you're truly that much better than them, then you'll find a way to, with legitimacy, combat them. Leave calling other people ignorant in the past. Attempt to educate them, and, if they refuse, let it be.

I don't understand what context you took what I previously said in.

[Lateralus]

Well, in fact, everything isn't theoretically possible. I'm using the term theoretically as supported by a scientific, theoretical basis. And, as you say, "it's possibility as something happening now"? Happening now? I'll let it slide - the context error makes no sense, unless you're unaware that, yes, theoretically now with RP capability, time-travel can be (and I won't use performed) exploited in a myriad of methods that so many would regard as retarded and illegitimate in the biased crowd that I've been associating with my "general statement", mind you, this entire time :\ --

And this isn't completely towards you; it's a general statement.

Really, the ONLY chaos that is added is the ignorance in those that cannot face the fact that there is more knowledge outside of themselves than they realize.

Now, Illnamiss, read this and relate it to your own post, being:

what I said stood against those saying certain theories cannot be used

Nudge, nudge.

Really, I understood the context you presented perfectly, I just said one thing, and digressed to a general statement, which primarily held in regard your statement of "time travel not being a possibility at this moment" (obviously).

You misunderstood what I put out there, and I won't say it is or isn't my fault, because my response makes sense to me.

And someone from across the internet can kiss my ass before I try to educate them; I'm too damn selfish. I'll point people in the direction to educate themselves, but my ass is welcome to kiss for anyone who expects me to be "a" hand that feeds. Just thought I'd put that out there.

[Illnamiss]

'Twas my mistake.

Though, I will say that, to improve RP-combat as it is, the willingness to educate, aswell as the willingness to be educated are both equally important.

[Lateralus]

I can agree with that in similar respect. And paraphrased, people need to educate themselves with an open mind, not seek another's education (wherein, they could be wrong at the things they do, which someone would never know until they found it out themselves). This is what leads to the reason why I don't educate anyone. I don't tell people the knowledge that I have gathered through my own time, because I've realized that the very reason I am so "fluent", you could say, in the field of concepts that I use is EXACTLY due to the fact that I spent that time to grasp it myself.

Really, in the end, it folds on itself. People seek education for others, and these others spill out their, perhaps, misinterpreted (or even absolutely correct) knowledge to educate said subordinates that thrive for such things. The misconception here is that BOOKS DO THE SAME, BUT BETTER. What's funny is books actually use text, too, to describe things! Even pictures! And what's even more strange is they're written by people who know what they're talking about (generally-speaking, though I am personally picky of the authors of any book)! AND books give you WAY more information on a topic you want to learn than any person that would willingly describe said topic to you. Oh, oh, AND (depending on the author, again) when books illustrate these ideas you're studying, they can do it a lot. By a lot, I mean they will go continuously over, in differing analogies and understandings, the topics you desire until you have such a clutch that there's no more questions to ask. The only remaining questions maybe for other topics that you need to understand so that you can better comprehend yet another topic, and vice versa.

In the end, you'll benefit from reading an actual book. The biggest piece, in my opinion, from what Illnamiss mentioned is that the willingness to be educated is important. If you are actually interested in this shit, like I am, reading comes along easier and can be more enjoyable. But, trust me; if you're reading for the thrill of coming up with new attacks, defenses, counters, or even character abilities/traits, you will come across a lot of ideas for yourself.

Oh, and it's been shown that Marijuana actually increases the activity of alpha waves in your brain, which is known to be associated with creativity, relaxation, and whatever else along those lines.

C-c-c-c-c-combo.

[baane]

Jun 19, 2008 21:24:43 GMT -7 tal1n said:

The basics of combusting a sword-blade is simple- for those who can cast a simple fire spell, if you wish it, simply oil up the blade and tap it with a quick spark, and there you go.

Very good way to completely destroy the strength of the blade and compromise its composition to turn it from a robust cutting weapon to a brittle thing of limited use.

[Fenris]

I think that baane has a point, superheating a sword so it burst into magical fire or w/e should take into consideration that heating up such a sword would cause it to probably melt. HOWEVER like everyone else seemed to think, getting that technical would severely halve anyones options on here. There are speacial weapons that might be made to channel to energy without weakening as Baane suggested or as Mesi suggested simply using a supernatural fire that works differently from normal fire. Regardless there is a fine line between covering you're bases and explaining every bit of technicality that must take place in the real world to explain what you're doing in RP. Imo as long as you're system is balanced and can be fought against whether or not the flaming sword would melt after a few moments is irrelevant since its basically just an enhanced melee attack and by no means the most powerful use of magic you will encounter.

[Styles]

Okay...so I didn't read this in any of the posts, though i merely skimmed through.

...we're wasting valuable time, energy, and a decent spell to...enhance and already lethal weapon...

Got it...

If that kind of material, magickal or otherwise, is available, why not use it in some other manner?

Say....when you get disarmed?

Got a hot blade, reaping fire from the depths of hell...you swing! Miss....oppoenent hammers your tender wrists...and you'r forced to drop your weapon. Now what?

Insta-cast something I suppose.