The Phantasmic Plane

[The Librarian]

by: Token
This Plane was created by Veazey, so I know a little more about it then the Transmundane, as I've fought him, and watched him use it and explain it. The Phantasmic Plane is the entity and instant planar transportation. It's one of the things that grant freedom to travel around any plane of the gifted choice. When you use it, you can make it one sided, and what I mean by that is you can consume someone with it, and say no energy can come in, or no energy can come out (But remember that only works for this plane of existence.)

by: Valgauder
Okay, so you can pretty much banish someone to the void. But doesn't that make it a little too powerful and considered more or less...God moding?

Something I wonder for each one of these bits of planar manipulation is, can it be countered by those who don't know how to manipulate any of these planes? Can it even be escaped at all?

To say that you "throw" someone somewhere. That there is no energy coming in or out. That's almost to say there's no stopping what's coming to you; death.

by: Token
Well, you pretty much have to alter the potential energy to a kinetic energy and basically have it go into the Prime Material to throw someone in the Transmundane, but you have to remember it's just energy. Think of it like Psionics, as planar manipulation is just a higher manipulation of psionics. Once you get used to PM, you know how to get by little things like Phantasmic, but it's barely used to begin with.

[The Librarian]

[«Å°Å»Veazey whispers to Delfio{Chaos}] The phantasmic is an entity of planar transition. It is actually the definition between the planes that keeps the planes from bleeding through, hence transplanar. It is seldom used as an attack itself, but rather an evasive entity or in conjunction with another more aggressive entity to create a potent attack. Essentially when manipulated can transport the user or the designated object or entity into another plane of existance without compromise their corporal constituents. Or it can be used to trap or repel energy. If it were explained more scientifically, it's the quantom frequency in which particles become more abstract, creating a conduit to different wave functions, allowing the user to successfully change frequencies to attack more metaphysical energies than just the corporal...and without compromising the cohesiveness within the matter that could utterly rip the user apart.

[«Å°Å»Veazey whispers to Delfio{Chaos}] Alright...umm...My views on the topic are that, I created the entity when I had something in mind but didn't have a name for it. At the time, theories were being used, but they were so sparsely stitched together, it seemed as if the users didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. They started playing with physics and had little to no idea of what they were doing or what real time consequences would be. Without that intact, people were throwing stuff around that could potentially be destroying themselves so they compromised by making themselves puppets and impossible to be attacked except but undefined "Special means". I didn't like the way the gaming community was taking onto the idea. At least with planes there were defined ideas of what the planes were, now each interpretation could be a bit different but there was no real compromising factor that couldn't eventually be decided upon. With theories people played with fire and never got burned. *C*

[«Å°Å»Veazey whispers to Delfio{Chaos}] Anyways, I created an entity that could bridge the gap at a time when I felt Veazey needed a conduit through which to reach these Avatars that people were growing so fond of. Whenever I fought I put Veazey on the line, if he died because of a knife wound that I didn't read correctly in the post before, then he would be dead. No more Veazey. With these other avatar and theory users, they seemed to have infinite power and the ability to escape any situation without a scratch. Last I checked, role-playing was just that, playing a character with a past and with some type of bond with other characters. It was writing a story, not writing a novel on quantom theory and then explaining that this theory was more superior than any other. I gave it definition and am not scared to divulge what it does or how it works.

[Lateralus]

"If it were explained more scientifically, it's the quantom frequency in which particles become more abstract, creating a conduit to different wave functions, allowing the user to successfully change frequencies to attack more metaphysical energies than just the corporal..."

It's my turn to point out something – why he’s so wrong.

First off, Tyler and I are on a level that we can bullshit together with no beef - we're cool. So, with that, I'm not trying to add any beef with what I'm saying, just showin' some things.

If he was to "explain it more scientifically", you'd think he'd use scientific terms. "Quantum Frequency" (quantum with a 'u', not quantom like he said a couple of times, by the way, even though it doesn't really matter) isn't a scientific term for anyone who'd think otherwise or would like to know. At any cost, the only relevance this would have to anything scientific would be 'the frequency of a quantum state (and a quantum state is the condition of a quantum system)'.

So, the Phantasmic entities would be the frequencies [or the differences] of the quantum system where particles become more abstract... Well, in a quantum systems, particles aren't particles; they're already abstract wave-like things until the quantum state changes when measured/observed, thereafter abiding to the natural classical physics we see today.

We have a set definition as he's scientifically given us. The issue is, however, it's more meaningless than you think. “Creating a conduit to different wave-functions” means something that creates a direct link to differing wave-functions – or, different probable behaviors the state could exhibit. Differing wave-functions? The concept of a wave-function is that it differs, just like a wave; the differences compose its overall function (it’s attributes, for those who like video games). Well, then, how do these differences come about, and how can a function change?

That's the idea of quantum mechanics and everything it [mainly] aims for - it's probability. Probable (or possible) things that can happen DO happen at this level of understanding.

So, if these Phantasmic entities create links to these differences that can happen in a wave-function, what does that tell us? Nothing. As far as we know, all of those differences literally do ‘simultaneously’ exist at “the quantum frequencies where particles become more abstract” - there doesn't need to be a conduit while they are all present, or in superposition in quantum physics. It's not until wave-function collapse (which comes from mere observation or measurement) that the differences become noticeable, wave-functions change, and things begin to behave on a classical physics level, rather than quantum mechanical.

Regardless to these imperative points, the Phantasmic entities are some kind of conduit, or link, to a wave-function changing its behavior and becoming a different wave-function.

IT’S PROBABILITY. Not an entity, but a concept of probability. Now, when you read the short passage he gave us (that I quoted), think of what probability is and plug it into the equation. Same thing? Very much so.

The context he gave us was “it’s a probability changing a probability to get other probabilities to occur.” Doesn’t make too much sense, does it? Phantasmic entities are the embodiment of probability in quantum mechanics? Now THAT contradicts what it’s trying to explain.

Let’s say, though, despite it being different than what he said, that it’s something else other than probability itself. What is it, then? What allows it to do what it does? That’d be a good question.

[atonement]

The AoA should stay away from science. They don't understand it.

[Lateralus]

It's just funny to look back but now realize that it was just quantum tunneling. The ability to transition from plane to plane without comprising yourself is one basic feat that phantasmics possesses. For all of you who know what quantum tunneling is, he's saying that phantasmics are the very probability that the particle has to even be able to quantum tunnel in the first place (which still doesn't make sense, since probability is... probability).