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Post by The Librarian on May 22, 2008 19:40:38 GMT -7
by: Siege{Chaos}
The Endless Void
Chaos expresses the principle of possibility unfettered by rules. In general, magic and sorcery draw on the powers of Chaos because they break the laws of nature. The effects of Chaos can be beautiful, but left unchecked, they become too disruptive for life.
Chaos in it's most pure and unadulterated form is the void. Mentioned time and again in mythology, chaos is the void from which all creation was formed. The void is nothing, but it contains the possibility for everything.
Existence is a synthesis between the thesis(reality) and the antithesis(the void). The void at once encompasses all and is encompassed by all. It is present in the space around the planes, and in the space between the smallest parts of matter. It is the void which separates planes from one another and doesn't allow the energy from other Planes to intersect or conflict with the opposing entity.
Delving deeper into this. If you include the multiple dimensions from quantum physics, the void becomes sort of a mirror of their existence. The Void and the dimensions exist in and around one another, completely separate yet utterly intertwined.
This connection is the cause of the chaos in existence. The chaos inherent in existence is not the pure chaos of the void, but merely a bleed through. This bleed through is the chaos most commonly tapped by individuals.
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Post by Lateralus on May 28, 2008 14:40:26 GMT -7
Just a vaguely revised way, void of theoretical background, of behaviors within quantum reality, really.
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Post by The Librarian on May 28, 2008 14:48:23 GMT -7
Care to elaborate at all?
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Post by Lateralus on May 28, 2008 15:25:48 GMT -7
Nothing to really elaborate on. Chaos, as you described, is simply a vague description of quantum activity. In example to the void, the idea of non-existence within quantum mechanics is impossible, because we'd know the energy AND value of something is 0 for it to be non-existent. According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, it's literally impossible to know two properties of something; for example, we can definitively pin the area where an electron's probability wave-function exists, but the more we realize of its position, the more information about its spin, speed, etc. (other properties), we lose. We can never understand two definite answers for two separate properties.
Probability plays the game, conforming to no rules, only contaminated by measurement.
Obviously it's ambiguously and vaguely described, however it's just that the chaos/void concept behaves identically with quantum reality. Not claiming they're necessarily they same - though they could be interpreted that way, void of contradictions - but the difference is the philosophy involved.
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Post by The Librarian on May 28, 2008 15:37:07 GMT -7
Yeah the philosophy is the big difference here. The Void is more supernatural, based in myth and legend where quantum reality is backed up by scientific theory.
As Chaos/Void manipulation is the element my character uses most, I'm trying to marry the two elements as much as possible.
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Post by Fenris on Jul 17, 2008 9:36:12 GMT -7
I am not pretending to be an expert on Planar, indeed i am first and foremost a melee fighter, however i see the void differently. The void as a manifestion of the antithesis to existance (or reality as we know it.) I prefer to think of the "astral plane" as the "bridge" connecting dimensions and omnipresent between all dimensions, with the void being outside existance and independant from the rest of the planes, only manifesting through the astral plane and as a result manifesting into the physical dimension. Keep in mind i try to be lovecraftian in my understanding of planar...
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Post by The Librarian on Jul 19, 2008 11:51:27 GMT -7
I took a lot of inspiration from the Warp of Warhammer 40K when I wrote this up. As such, I've posted a write up on the Warp as well.
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Post by interitus on Sept 10, 2008 12:04:30 GMT -7
Personally, I perfer logic to magic, magic is just retarded imo.
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Post by Styles on Aug 27, 2010 19:55:44 GMT -7
Opinion's differ far too much on this subject to truly come to any substantial compromise.
Void -- Perfect nothingness. Existing without existing. The be all end all of Creation and Non-existance. From the void comes ether, into which ether is strewn together in strands, these strands become the strings of life, in which souls are made manifest.
(by right of a series of books, the ether "coming from" void is....somehow tainted, and thus, souls are forged by ether to cleanse the materia to perfect the universe or whatever. SO basically void shits...our realm is the toilet, we're the turds...we get flushed, and are filtered until cleaned)
Chaos -- The realm into which void bleeds ether. Devoid of any literal oir virtual cohesion or comprhension. Interpereted singly and fully incapable of any consitancy.
Now....how one would use this as a combat tool is beyond me....
Using void will effectively 'delete' anything it touches, including any literal sense of reality, time, space....you get the idea. It cannot be controlled, imo. Using ether is the same thing as throwing cotton into a bon-fire, lol.
Chaos....yeah that's a realm or 'world' to me. I don't see how one would deposit this into their combat repertoire.
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Post by Fenris on Sept 8, 2010 9:13:31 GMT -7
@ inheritus, Magic itself is neccessary in RP cause even the most well thought out scientific theories would still be impossible to perfom in the ways that they are on TK. Also logic is essential even to magic and fantasy based systems, but excessive logic is a factor. For example the type of people who read string theory, quantum physics, Stephen Hawking etc. Most people have no mind for theorhetical physics, or the concepts they describe. Most of the principals are just theories and even so are horrendously complicated. It just seems disengenuous to rely totally on "Science" to perform magic when so many people dont and cant understand it well. Its like purposely making you're system as confusing and techncial as possible in order to force people into submission by virtue of how damn complicated you're system is. I once had someone who used quantum principals to literally erase my people from existance before the current fight had ever began, it took like 8-9 posts to do and everyone was like "lol wut?" its just stupid to rely totally on science because that ruins the basis of fantasy RP, at some point you have to let go and realize that trying to science-talk someone into submission is cheap and unsporting, which is NOT to say that even fantasy based systems shouldnt have a solid form of logic behind their mechanics.
As for my take on Chaos, I just use the method of disrupting my environment and sending it into such violent flux it can be used in multiple ways, while having the potential to affect and be affected by just about anything the same way.
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